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So You Want a Refund?

I have heard other models talk about this, well now it happened to me! Ladies watch out for assholes like this! I just may leave xhamster over this.

So here is what happened, yesterday I decided to do a show from my front yard. I am happy and excited to do it. It is my first time doing it and a guy named patricking wants to take me private. I accept even though some of my friends are there and want to watch since it is a good way to get tokens which I need since xhamster is my job.

I did a great private show for patricking and received 400 tokens for my work or services however you want to look at it. Let's not beat around the bush he got to see everything he wanted and I am sure he got off good because I know what I did for him.

Today xhamster gave patricking a refund and took those 400 tokens I earned away from me.

We do not make much money on xhamster to begin with. I usually end up making around $100 each month total from xhamster and that is all. And now they are going to take back tokens AFTER I DO A PRIVATE SHOW? This is not fair or right. It is a crappy way to do business. I personally think that models should boycott this site until xhamster decides to pay us more and to give us back the tokens that we have earned and had refunded. I do not know why they refunded the guy, but they have no business taking away from their models. They need to pay the models more not less.

Okay my rant is over, is anyone else pissed off about this? I am horny as hell but I am not going to play on camera today!
Posted by glassheartlady 2 years ago
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glasshear...
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2 years ago
Thanks http://xhamster.com/user/femalesonly I prefer the opinions of sexy people like you over their opinion any day. I know it has nothing to do with my boring post about xhamster being greedy but I wonder if I can sit on your sexy face?
2 years ago
Not exactly sure where this "yourwreckin" person gets off thinking he/she knows everything about everything, but the bottom line is the all-too-common xHamster practice of refunding customers and debiting the model IS cheesy, it happens too frequently, and xHamster seems to care little that it goes on at all. I wonder if wreckin has ever done paid cam shows? Cuz if he/she hasn't, he/she can shut his/her trap as he/she's got NO idea what he/she's talking about but trying to act like he/she does.

Also, trying to claim an independent contractor (which is what the models are) is "greedy" simply because they feel they should be paid more is just plain stupid. By the same logic, ANY employee in ANY job who feels like they should earn a little more is "greedy"? It's pretty clear that "wreckin" just has some sort of problem with cam models, either on this site or in general, and so he/she's taken this opportunity to try to take one person's admittedly frustrating situation and turn it into a way to vent his / her own apparent frustrations or resentments unnecessarily. Silly, really...anyway, good post ghl!
glasshear...
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2 years ago
Yourwreckinin3530 you say that you are not rude- but you refer to the models here as "wanna be porn actors". You are most definitely trying to degrade all of us with that comment.
2 years ago
Ethically I completely agree. Once you've been paid for services rendered, they shouldn't take that payment back from you, regardless of watch the customer did or said...but to expect more than you are already getting out of situation is greedy to me, so it washes out, and legally I'm sure they've covered their tracks, not trying to be rude, I'm just saying
glasshear...
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2 years ago
I could really care less about the escort business or the porn industry. Let's not digress, the problem is xhamster taking tokens back from models who have earned them fair and square. Nothing more and nothing less.
2 years ago
Glassheartlady I understand perfectly what you are saying. I just don't agree with you.
2 years ago
Also not to be rude and totally rip apart your reply but, porn actors aren't having sx with strangers, they are having sex with co-workers, many of which probably consider each other friends...and in case you hadn't realized, a big part of the escort business is repeat customers
glasshear...
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2 years ago
Take a look at this album:
http://xhamster.com/photos/gallery/1520152/refunds.html
Now take a look how many albums just like it there are. This is not xhamster shorting one model of 400 tokens. This is xhamster repeatedly ripping off models. I don't need a law degree to know that what they are doing is wrong and cheap. And I don't need a law degree to realize these guys are working xhamster either getting what they want and all for free.

http://xhamster.com/user/yourwreckinin3530 your comments are rude and clearly you do not understand the issue from reading both of your comments.
2 years ago
First of all, I never said being an escort or professional porn actor was the same as what you are doing. I was specifically saying what you are doing is not worthy of complaining, and the issues they deal with are worthy.
Unless you have a law degree or a lot of experience with business&labor law your interpretation of your contract with xhamster means nothing. More than likely they're completely within their rights to do what they've done because they stand way more to lose if they fuck up vs your 20$ (400x.05)
"I usually end up making around $100 each month total from xhamster and that is all" you earn this in your own home, aided by the anonymity of the internet, by masturbating and/or fucking people you probably were gonna fuck anyways?? and you're complaining about this one time your employer shorted you 20$ ??
glasshear...
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2 years ago
Yes- I believe they are greedy! I believe that you are wrong http://xhamster.com/user/yourwreckinin3530
it is no where near the same as an escort or a porn star. Porn stars and escorts are having sex with strangers for money. What models are doing is giving perverts like yourself something to perv over by opening the windows and letting you look in on our sex life and or masturbation habits. There is a big difference in the two. Either way a service was performed and payment is due for that service. You do not ask for a refund after the service is performed. xhamster has an agreement with it's models and is violating that by not paying the models when their clients use the tokens. The token sales are up to xhamster, earning the tokens from the clients by doing something that pleases them is our job as models. Once they give them to us xhamster should pay out that money as it is required under the contract to do.
2 years ago
Xhamster is greedy? Hunny you are easy. Trying to make extra money performing shows. Xhamster didnt have to give you wannabe porn actors an opportunity to safely show your goods that also pays (no matter how small) ...want to complain about not making enough selling your body? Become an actual escort or an actual porn actor first...
2 years ago
That sucks!!
1forlicki...
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2 years ago
I guess us models will never know if money we thought we earned will be refunded. That is a bunch of crap. I have not heard of this before, but am certainly glad I now have a heads up. Thank you!
glasshear...
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2 years ago
That is understandable Sleekone, but if it was a stolen card that should be xhamsters problem not the models problem. They should never take money away from their models. Did you know we only get $00.05 cents US dollars per token in the first place? xhamster is greedy that is what this boils down to.
2 years ago
Have you been in touch with the guy ? Maye it was a stolen card. If so, they refund to the real owner of the card...that is a major possibility. You should try amazon gift cards
2 years ago
yes unless they stop refunding i think we we all leave this site. at least the ones who are working on their own.
2 years ago
i damned sure am hamster needs to QUIT refunding people period
2 years ago
i always hate fuckers like that, i always pay direct too model so the models make more money and i feel better getting a personnel show on skype or something, i hate paying douchebag site designers more money then the girls that do the shows, that is why i never get tokens on any sites.
glasshear...
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2 years ago
Thanks guys and I agree with you both. Xhamster should give him the refund not the poor underpaid and overworked models!
2 years ago
Thats just not right! I mean you should get all the profit from your shows. And if the guy wants a refund xhamster should pay him back not you. Its not your fault the guys a jerk and a asshole and got sumthing for nothing and thats what he did. bottom line no other way to say it!
2 years ago
What an Asshole!!!! Sorry it happon to you!